The Lounge • MWSF '09
SimonK wrote:
http://files.seems.nl/images/MacRumors. … 183150.png
Ouch..That's messed up.
Edit: And they took it down. Embarrassing.
Unfortunate that they've managed to hacked into that.
Its really nice to have that, but some people just see it as a stage to make asses of themselves (and MR) on.
Last edited by PAKennedy (January 6, 2009 12:36 pm)
Give a man fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Worst. Keynote. Ever.
(Other than iLife updates)
Give a man fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
This keynote was...
.... thin.
The only thing exciting is the new 17" MBP. 7-8 hours of battery with a 5 year lifespan.. if it lives only up to 60% of that, I'm still excited 
Last edited by WhiteFang (January 6, 2009 1:48 pm)
I wish there was a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence. There's a knob called 'brightness', but it doesn't work.
To hell with that. There's an MBP with a matte screen option.
BEST. KEYNOTE. EVAR. 
Marathon Forever.
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I guess I'll take that back. The keynote itself wasn't bad, just lackluster.
The improved battery life was cool and I'm about to pee myself with excitement for the new ilife, but other than that it just seemed like they tried to dogear some of the more dull things (like itunes music pricing) into revolutionary announcements.
The bar has been set pretty high the last few years and we've put quite a bit of pressure on Apple to wow us constantly, but as the final macworld, being just about due of an iphone and mac mini update, and the buzz brewing about what might be the final "one more thing", I don't know...I guess I just expected more and now feel let down.
But what's worse, they can't make up for it next year.
Last edited by PAKennedy (January 6, 2009 2:02 pm)
Give a man fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Why is everyone so disappointed? The interwebs (particularly MR) is now full of complaining at why rumours did not materialise, and people saying that the Mac mini was a lost opportunity. They would have had to have developed the damn thing a long time before the rumours popped up.
/rant
mmm... Extra chewy
I thought it was pretty good for what it was - all the complaints are the EXACT reason why Apple is no longer going to be at Macworld.
Warbrain wrote:
I thought it was pretty good for what it was - all the complaints are the EXACT reason why Apple is no longer going to be at Macworld.
Amen to that. Along with it not being the best timing during the year to actually announce major stuff (or not the only time to do so anymore). I tweeted yesterday that all the negative comments -- all the complainers, if you will -- sound to me like folks who only go to church at Christmas and Easter. Feels like folks who only pay attention to Apple at MacWorld.
I've been a Mac user since '85 and I wasn't disappointed, nor was I wowed. Solid software upgrades, boost to the 17" (which may actually entice me to upgrade soon).
People have come to expect far too much from this one event and Apple can't create enough stuff in short development cycles to satisfy all the "I want this from Apple this time" craze. (-;
But this means no Mac Christmas. 
Maybe next year's giving tree will have to have a 'one more thing'.
phillryu wrote:
But this means no Mac Christmas.
Maybe next year's giving tree will have to have a 'one more thing'.
Don't you think that on the contrary, Apple will use this opportunity to release new products (like the iLife's) before Christmas, as they will have no need to save anything until January anymore?
jennsbl wrote:
I tweeted yesterday that all the negative comments -- all the complainers, if you will -- sound to me like folks who only go to church at Christmas and Easter. Feels like folks who only pay attention to Apple at MacWorld.
It might seem like I'm one of the complainers, but to continue the analogy, if you go to church all year long, you understand the importance of Christmas and Easter and you expect and hope for those days to really be something special and not just like any other Sunday.
This would be like if you when to mass or services on one of those days and the priest or pastor did an excellent job for a Sunday, but fell short of your expectations for a holy day.
Apple has made Macworld into a "holy day". Its wrong of us to really expect it to be as grandiose a day as Apple has made it into in the past, but humans are primal and when we are delivered so much, on a specific day, so consistently throughout the years, we will grow to hope and expect it to continue. iPhoto showed up, so I'm certainly don't consider it a failure and I like how Warbrain put it saying that it was good for what it was, but I can't help but feel left wanting more.
Give a man fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
definetheline wrote:
phillryu wrote:
But this means no Mac Christmas.
Maybe next year's giving tree will have to have a 'one more thing'.Don't you think that on the contrary, Apple will use this opportunity to release new products (like the iLife's) before Christmas, as they will have no need to save anything until January anymore?
I think this means you'll see a more even spread of releases throughout the year. Notebooks late in the year, pro machines at WWDC, iPods in September, iPhone...who knows...
Warbrain wrote:
I think this means you'll see a more even spread of releases throughout the year. Notebooks late in the year, pro machines at WWDC, iPods in September, iPhone...who knows...
Right, because that's the Mac Easter
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I think Apple has set itself up perfectly for an "OS special event" in the coming months to talk about Snow Leopard and iPhone OS 3.0, as well as a "desktop event", with iMac, Mac Mini, and Mac Pro updates.
Personally, I'd hate to be held to the standard that Apple is held to.
definetheline wrote:
I think Apple has set itself up perfectly for an "OS special event" in the coming months to talk about Snow Leopard and iPhone OS 3.0, as well as a "desktop event", with iMac, Mac Mini, and Mac Pro updates.
Personally, I'd hate to be held to the standard that Apple is held to.
I think we'll get an event next month or in March about Snow Leopard but not about iPhone 3. I dont think it's time for an iPhone 3.0 because I don't know what could be in a new device that would need a new OS version.
Desktop event in April or May - iMac and Mac mini only with possibly one surprise update then. Mac Pro will be truly updated at WWDC as is appropriate.
definetheline wrote:
I think Apple has set itself up perfectly for an "OS special event" in the coming months to talk about Snow Leopard and iPhone OS 3.0, as well as a "desktop event", with iMac, Mac Mini, and Mac Pro updates.
That's exactly what I was thinking (/hoping). Surely they'll create some sort of annual/semi-annual event. Maybe they'll go to two separate Software and Hardware refresh events.
definetheline wrote:
Personally, I'd hate to be held to the standard that Apple is held to.
Amen. They created the monster that drives them to do so much work, but that's why they're making the strides that they are.
Give a man fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
rampancy wrote:
pschorr wrote:
I want the Display Port HDMI adapter!
Did they actually promise a DisplayPort HDMI adapter? Or did someone else? Because I frankly can't see Apple shelling out the big bucks for a license to use HDMI.
I don't believe they promised. I think it was a reseller claiming to have stock of such an item by the end of January.
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What'd be interesting is if IDG were to be able to pull-off having the Macworld Expo at the same time that Apple's WWDC happens. Moscone North/South may already be booked and it probably doesn't make sense to do it for WWDC '09. But if they were to be able to make it work for WWDC '10, they'd be able to salvage the Macworld Expo, which would otherwise inevitably die out within a few years, tops.
johnred wrote:
What'd be interesting is if IDG were to be able to pull-off having the Macworld Expo at the same time that Apple's WWDC happens. Moscone North/South may already be booked and it probably doesn't make sense to do it for WWDC '09. But if they were to be able to make it work for WWDC '10, they'd be able to salvage the Macworld Expo, which would otherwise inevitably die out within a few years, tops.
How would that work? Wouldn't all the developers be at sessions instead of booths?
definetheline wrote:
How would that work? Wouldn't all the developers be at sessions instead of booths?
For most of the bigger companies that make up the expo, the booths are usually manned (is there a less sexist term?) by sales staff. So yeah, the downside would be that the more "indie" 1-3 person companies would likely have to pass but they tend to make up a very small percentage of the expo usually.
johnred wrote:
What'd be interesting is if IDG were to be able to pull-off having the Macworld Expo at the same time that Apple's WWDC happens. Moscone North/South may already be booked and it probably doesn't make sense to do it for WWDC '09. But if they were to be able to make it work for WWDC '10, they'd be able to salvage the Macworld Expo, which would otherwise inevitably die out within a few years, tops.
I've heard this tossed around in other places as well. I don't know if Apple would want it to happen, though, because it still attaches them to an event that they don't have control over like WWDC. Macworld and CES should look into finding someway to merge together and possibly move later in the year.
And let's face it, the smaller one or two person development teams are going to have booths. You're going to have larger independent developers have booths, sales people and PR at the booth while the devs go off to other things. It already happens at Macworld.
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